rope burn...:o

gsdstewart · #1 02-02-12, 07:01 AM

..just back from a walk....with the long line in hand....Sheba has recently decided to 'dingy' me when we are out and becoming more fixated with the chase and stalking of the small fluffy dogs when we are out..bit of a bully...high prey drive and know that she cannot help it..so have been using the long line...this morning on a sit and stay she decided to ignore and run to get at another dog..major rope burn!!...I know that this takes time and patience (de ja vu at 6 months)and could do wi a few pointers practically. - I need something that knock hers out ( If you know what I mean, not the exact terminology) the fixation( that few seconds)...So when I was at the vet the other day I decided to ask him...he was worse than useless...I would love to meet someone that has good gsd experience!!...reading a few posts I can empathise with some others...I think my frustration is kicking in....been looking at the vislor vids and if only!

LOVEGSD · #2 02-02-12, 11:29 AM

Don't worry we've all been there trying to get their attention, the key is to get in there before they have a chance to react, you need to be watching her body language and be aware of what's going on around you, looking out for triggers.

If you're not happy with how she's approaching I would turn around and walk away, don't allow her the opportunity to get into full on stalk mode.

You are right though it does take time and patience but if you stay consistant it will one day click into place I promise.

Don't let the Vislor vids get you down, these are professionals and do it for a living, take inspiration from it and know that you can get your dog to respond with consistant training.

sami · #3 02-02-12, 11:46 AM

The problem is it is different for every dog, what works for one might not for another. As Lynn says it really is just time and perseverence. I must admit I think the 1 to 2 year period is the worst, can be very frustrating. I think once they are no longer pups there is the tendency to relax and not be as strict thinking they are "trained" and then they start to test their boundaries and it all seems to go horribly wrong!!

Caryll · #4 02-02-12, 12:31 PM

I sympathise with the rope burn - it hurts!

Can only repeat what the others have said - consistency, praise & perseverance.

gsdstewart · #5 02-02-12, 04:51 PM

I sympathise with the rope burn - it hurts!

My fingers are stuck together...sare!!...I think that my main frustration is that it is hard to let Sheba interact round my way...as many small dogs with owners that are scared..before I never bothered but I feel that avoidance on my part, is starting to creep in..which I don't want..when she is doing random lunge and chasing, when I get her to sit and wait when a small dog is coming, its almost in anticipation...been to the library today to see if any good books...on the training route...

ps...still cannot get her on the treadmill...shez too switched on!!.

Stuart · #6 02-02-12, 06:28 PM

If your long lead is a nylon one, I suggest that you tie knots in it, one every foot or so, that way you dont get burnt hands and you aquire a far better grip

Probably the best long lines are the ones they use for horse training though, quite cheap on Ebay

gsdstewart · #7 03-02-12, 01:16 PM

Probably the best long lines are the ones they use for horse training though, quite cheap on Ebay[/QUOTE]

..yip it is a thick nylon from a horse trainer on ebay..I have a few notes in the line already..bit of a slip though..thanks folks

nickmcmechan · #8 04-02-12, 06:48 AM

also, I use fingerless gloves when I'm tracking (i.e. using a long line) as it allows me to do other things as well as avoid the rope burn (and i use a leather line as well)

i wondered when i read your thread if it might be good to go to an area with lower distraction levels to practice getting attention on you rather than other things. not sure how possible that is for you, but hope it helps

gsdstewart · #9 04-02-12, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by nickmcmechan

also, I use fingerless gloves when I'm tracking (i.e. using a long line) as it allows me to do other things as well as avoid the rope burn (and i use a leather line as well)

i wondered when i read your thread if it might be good to go to an area with lower distraction levels to practice getting attention on you rather than other things. not sure how possible that is for you, but hope it helps

..she has been acting a bit of a dafty with the line initially...but she is fine when in a quite area but I feel that its good to have the distraction as this is one of the main problems...not sure sometimes??

nickmcmechan · #10 04-02-12, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gsdstewart

..she has been acting a bit of a dafty with the line initially...but she is fine when in a quite area but I feel that its good to have the distraction as this is one of the main problems...not sure sometimes??

i guess my philosophy is that if something is not working or going right then wind it back, all the way to the puppy basics if need be

i see this often in WT training where a dog suddenly decides to stop doing the jumps - it's happended to me in the 9ft long and i wound it back to 3ft and started from the beginning again.

to me, the philosophy also applies to behavioural training, so what i'm trying to get at is if the dog is not behaving when there are distractions, train without any distractions, then gradually introduce them (if you can). if at any stage it doesn't work go back a stage and always be prepared to go complete basics if needs be. it will take the three P's as others have said (Persistence, Patience and Positive reward)

hope that helps, others may have different apporaches that work for you