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Old 11-12-11, 04:22 PM
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Question about prey drive

Yesterday Maddie managed to catch a rabbit, never thought she would ever be fast enough to be honest, but there you go.

I immediately thought that she would kill it, she does the wild shaking thing with some of her toys.
However, when told she dropped it, and just sniffed it.

Is it that she didn't know what to do with it, or once caught she's got no interest? I thought animal instinct would take over. Just curious really.

Oh and the rabbit hopped away, seemingly unhurt.
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Old 11-12-11, 04:26 PM
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She must be quick, that must have been an interesting walk

I don't think Lukey would know what to do with a live thing either
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Old 11-12-11, 04:55 PM
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Yesterday Maddie managed to catch a rabbit, never thought she would ever be fast enough to be honest, but there you go.

I immediately thought that she would kill it, she does the wild shaking thing with some of her toys.
However, when told she dropped it, and just sniffed it.

Is it that she didn't know what to do with it, or once caught she's got no interest? I thought animal instinct would take over. Just curious really.

Oh and the rabbit hopped away, seemingly unhurt.
Certain drives and canine instincts are powerful examples and display ancient natural behaviours, inherited genetically. They may be weaker or stronger from breed to breed or from one dog to another, but they remain hard wired.

Drives are primal motivators in the dog's mind, responsible for all instinctual behaviours.

In all predators the prey drive follows an inevitable sequence.
the search> the eye-stalk> the chase> the grab-bite> the kill bite.

In wolves the drive is complete and balanced, in breeds today these steps have been amplified or reduced by human controlled selective breeding for various purposes.

For example the eye stalk is a strong component of the behaviours used by herding dog's and use the chasing aspect but must not grab and bite to prevent stock being wounded.

Where-as retrievers are expected to chase prey and bring it back to the human hunter but not damage or bite it.

Drives urge dog's into action and their instincts are the inborn ability to perform a task successfully without prior learning.
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I'd agree it varies from dog to dog. JL has a very high prey drive and will kill anything small and furry/feathered he can get hold of, I worked very hard teaching a chase recall because of this. Del on the other hand was all about the chase and on one occasion stepped over a mixi rabbit and didn't give it a second thought. Leaving a nice job for me !
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I was always told that there are 5 'sections' of prey drive in order to survive in the wild...
1.stalk
2.chase
3.catch
4.kill
5. eat.

Most dogs have at least two of these (chase & catch) but few have all of them, and even those that play with their toys as though they are killing them may not do that to a live creature.
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certainly was an interesting walk, im sure it was quite a sight, her chasing the rabbit, me chasing her

she would have went for it again, only i had a hold of her by that point after getting her to release it, juggling a poo bag and getting the lead back on

Might need to be more vigilant from now on, since shes had a taste of success.
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certainly was an interesting walk, im sure it was quite a sight, her chasing the rabbit, me chasing her

she would have went for it again, only i had a hold of her by that point after getting her to release it, juggling a poo bag and getting the lead back on

Might need to be more vigilant from now on, since shes had a taste of success.
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Old 11-12-11, 05:29 PM
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ha, saw that! it wasn't quite so dramatic, and well away from roads. Maddie isn't a jumper or a fan of water, so a fence one side and a river the other are all i need!
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All my GSDs apart from Monty and my current one Zandi would catch, kill and eat prey, the CPs will catch and kill but not necessary eat esp the rats, Zandi just likes the chase
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MIne definately loves the chase but get totally confused if he catches anything.
He caught a crow once and just stood looking perplexed with it in his mouth until I took it from him. Another day he caught a swan!! Had it by the wing but again didn't know what to do next. Both birds perfectly alright and flew away after.
He has come very, very close to catching a squirrel and rabbit but not yet managed it. I would rather he did not catch or harm anything but when he takes off in hot persuit it is the one time when his recall is dodgy.
As has been said, it is down to the individual dog. x
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