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04-12-10, 02:46 PM
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problem dog walking - dog biting but non aggressive
anyone got any ideas - kane goes out walking with his Dad and is as good as gold even to the point of putting on the collar lead halti.
I want to walk him what happens - he goes into faff mode - behaviourist been and advised but so expensive!!!
he pounces runs off then 10 minutes later i may manage to get the collar on - then its the same thing when trying to get the halti and then the lead on - pouncing and barking running off
when I used to walk him he jumped up and he would bite my left arm not aggressively just jumped up and attached himself to my coat - he did this frequently
so annoying cos i used to walk him for 50 mins three four times no probs
i started to use the pet controll things bad idea if anyone thinks about using one!!! DO NOT!!!
behaviourist says i gotta walk kane when badge is with me - not on my own - i want to walk this monkey and he aint winning
i need to stop him jumping up and barking - got to wear a muzzle too to stop him biting me he wants to get the muzzle off though doesnt like it - trying the muzzle training - again i emphasize it is not aggressive biting just an annoying habit he has got which needs stopping
i think hes become his dad's boy and doesnt want his mum to walk him and this makes me sad.
the behaviourist has helped but it is soooooo expensive. any ideas please people much appreciated.
I WANT TO WALK KANE AGAIN!!!! I WILL WALK HIM AGAIN but I want to do this sooner rather than leaving it too late
so desperate to walk him again as loved it
please help!!!!!!!!!!
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04-12-10, 02:50 PM
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I am expecting to get shot down for this BUT if the jumping up and biting your clothes is as bad as you say have you tried just kneeing him in the chest quite hard? This was Jerry Lees worst habit to break and I swear I tried everything else I could think of first but ultimately that's what solved my problem!
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04-12-10, 03:55 PM
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Revisit obedience commands with Kane: sit, down, etc. Go back to basics. Get him to sit before you put the lead on. If he doesn't do it, you put the lead down and ignore him. Then try again.
When he's hyper as you describe you stand less chance of getting him to do anything. Remus used to mouth my OH on walks, esp when first let off lead, but he never did it to me - just gave a happy bark! I told my OH every time Remus mouthed to put him back on lead, so his 'freedom' ended.
It sounds like excitement, but you do need to curb it. I'd work on the obedience angle combined with ignoring. Shout NO! when he does it and turn and walk away from him - what does he do?
Practice in less stimulating environments, like your garden, putting the lead / halti on.
For jumping up, i do this: hold firmly onto dog's front paws when it jumps up - they hate that, and will struggle to get down. Then when 4 paws are on the floor, dog gets praise / treat.
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05-12-10, 11:25 AM
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Have you tried giving him something to hold in his mouth? Oka used to do this - still does but we are getting there - The behavourist at our puppy class said giving them something to hold in thier mouth may curb some of the excitement.
I doubt its that he doesn't want you to walk him - maybe its more that your more exciting. If you haven't walked him for a while (couldn't work that out from your post) maybe he's super excited that it's you this time?
Could you walk with your partner/hubby,so he has the lead first then gives it to you so he is walking nice with you. then build up to you holding it as you leave the house.
I also agree with the idea of back to basics. for jumping I walk away if Oka jumps up at me and just totally ignore her - like she's not there. Oka has given me a few bruises from being super excited and jumping up and biting me....i feel your pain - its not nice at all.
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05-12-10, 01:46 PM
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Thanks for advice I really appreciate it - I'm not walking him this weather cos i know i'll go flying on my arse!!! lol but will try once it has eased off. Kane is 16 months old now so a big dog and it is so annoying that my husband just says sit and puts collar lead and halti on and walks past dogs and other people with no problems - ive been on a walk with them to watch and learn!! TROUBLE is he behaves if Badge is with me but when he isnt its Yipeee mums walking me now Yipeee i dont have to behave myself - grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!
I loved walking him and want to get back to it I really do. I walked him in august no problems. I have to watch for dogs and more so cats but people i could walk past now he even barks at people when they walk past on opposite side.
I love the tinker to bits and feel guilty not walking him
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05-12-10, 09:12 PM
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Could you get badge to walk further behind, and then increase the distance?
I'm not an expert but it seems like something changed between you and Kane (great name btw my sons is the same but with a Y in it!) and now he's pushing his weight around. Does he listen to you well in other situations?
I've just gone back to walking Oka after a month (I had an operation on my wrist), we had one walk where she was a little sod (e.g mum are your rules the same?) and she walks fine with me again. She is a pain to get her harness on but that's equal both my DP and I.... Work in progress!
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05-12-10, 09:49 PM
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If my dog treated me like your dog does to you, she would firmly be told OFF.... In a growly tone of voice...
It sounds like he does not respect you and it is all a big game.... as he knows how to behave with your OH...
I think you have to be more firmer with him if im honest.
He is at the stage where he will keep pushing his luck.... Zara is 6 and still does it at times, especially with people who are soft with her....
Example: I went on holiday to Egypt and my SIL was looking after Zara. When i got back she told me she was dragging her about outside.... barking at other dogs....
As i was walking out the gate after picking her up, she saw another dog and went to bark.... I straight away gave her a look and said "Enough"
She stopped barking..... straight away. She knows when i mean it.
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16-12-10, 05:07 PM
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problem dog walking
I took kane for a small walk yesterday and today - twice
I manage to put the halti lead and muzzle on - if only the dog would realise the only reason he is wearing the muzzle is cos he bites me when out walking - mouthing loads - it is NOT aggressive BUT IT HURTS LOADS
i tell him to sit etc whilst out walking he usually listens so gets a treat
i went out with a no nonsense attitude BUT tonight he was a little buggar - I had to bring him home I couldnt cope cos all he wants to do is get the muzzle off.
when he has his muzzle on all he wants to do is roll around to get it off when he gets to the grass area. however he used to just do business and wee there before all this palava.
I am getting the hang of the lead control cos have had lots of practise I stand holding a double lead and weight bear try not to panic.
Kane just goes absolutely beserk barking and wriggling and alsorts - i am getting more confident with that but WHY does he go beserk when a man walks past?? yet the other day a girl walked past no barking- a neighbour walked past i spoke and he spoke - kane lost his head lol. I was told not to walk him alone but HE NEEDS to be Walked I wont get anywhere if i dont try will I. I want to eventually get back to the way things are but am walking clsoe to home to get my confidence back and the handling better.
HOW can I STOP he going beserk and lunging and barking and also how can i stop him getting his muzzle off
i do the training but he Just doesnt like wearing it outside
He cannot enjoy the grass areas the same. he just wants to roll around and try and get the muzzle off!!
I tell him off for mouthing but soemtimes he does that without the jumping up!!
he will sit lay down, leave for a treat so got that training ok to a point - sometimes if he has his naughty head on he doesnt listen
WHY though can my husband walk past people and dogs etc and no problems and i get all this.
The walks i gave him have helped curbed his crazy hairing round the room like something not right lol
I want to then progress to off lead running in a field without my husband.
Now that i am very panicy about at the mo
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16-12-10, 05:17 PM
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I would say the barking and lunging at people is protection. He feels the need to protect you against what he perceives as a threat. He doesn't do it with your OH as he knows that he can handle the situation. I'm sure that as you get your confidence back this will improve as will his behaviour in general.
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16-12-10, 05:50 PM
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sami wass very protective of me on my own and wouild not tolerate a man walking towards me she goes beserk until they stopped!! She seemed to grow out of it the more I walked her on my own.
Regards the muzzle is it one of those "tight" cloth ones, have you tried the hannibal lecter basket type ones he might tolerate that better.
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